After doing quite a bit of research, I still find myself confused about the different types of walkie talkies and which one would suit my needs best. I need a device with at least a 10 km range in a fairly flat but densely forested area. Could someone explain the key differences between the types and recommend some options? Additionally, I live in the EU; does this limit my choices due to regulations, as some sources suggest? Thanks!
Even slight elevation changes can completely block the signal from a handheld walkie-talkie. I wouldn’t rely on one for more than maybe 200 meters in wooded areas.
Achieving a 10km range with a handheld in dense forest conditions is highly unlikely, regardless of the device’s quality. In such environments, a 1-2km range is more realistic.
Kerr said:
Achieving a 10km range with a handheld in dense forest conditions is highly unlikely, regardless of the device’s quality. In such environments, a 1-2km range is more realistic.
Would using VHF mode make a difference?
@Zen
While VHF might offer better range due to its signal properties, achieving significant distances would likely require setups like elevated wire antennas or the use of repeater towers, which also necessitate licenses. Off-the-shelf FRS/GMRS radios, which are common, wouldn’t be effective for such distances in dense forests without such enhancements.
@Kerr
I was referring to simpler, inexpensive handhelds like the UV-5R, just using the stock antenna on the VHF band.
Zen said:
@Kerr
I was referring to simpler, inexpensive handhelds like the UV-5R, just using the stock antenna on the VHF band.
For typical consumer models found in sporting goods stores, such as FRS/GMRS radios, achieving 10km in open conditions is already challenging, let alone dense forests. Using a UV-5R or similar radio would require a ham license to legally operate, especially if you’re modifying it with a more powerful antenna or using it in frequency bands reserved for licensed amateur radio operators.
@Kerr
Thank you for your insights!
Farley said:
@Kerr
Thank you for your insights!
Try the UV-5G GMRS version for about $35, which might meet your needs better. It does require a license, but no exam is needed, just a fee. Alternatively, consider a CB radio for about $50, which doesn’t need a license.
We use Motorola TALKABOUT T92 H2O radios and get about 3km range in Finnish forests, and much farther in open areas. They’ve been tested up to 11km in line-of-sight mountain conditions. They’re waterproof, float, and have a built-in flashlight, which is great for kayaking. The microphone could be more sensitive, but they’re generally very reliable.
@Casey
I’ll consider the Motorola, thanks! Kiitos!
The Baofeng UV-5R is a good starting point. Keep an eye on sales for potential deals.
Sam said:
The Baofeng UV-5R is a good starting point. Keep an eye on sales for potential deals.
Can the Baofeng realistically cover around 10 km? I’m on a tight budget and can’t afford to experiment with multiple models.
@Farley
Terrain will play a big role, but with an upgraded antenna, you might improve the range somewhat.
Sam said:
@Farley
Terrain will play a big role, but with an upgraded antenna, you might improve the range somewhat.
How exactly can you upgrade the antenna?
Sam said:
@Farley
Terrain will play a big role, but with an upgraded antenna, you might improve the range somewhat.
How exactly can you upgrade the antenna?
Yes, replacing the stock antenna with a larger one might help extend the range slightly, though the improvement may not be substantial.
Sam said:
@Farley
Terrain will play a big role, but with an upgraded antenna, you might improve the range somewhat.
How exactly can you upgrade the antenna?
A 15" antenna might give you an extra 20% range. Just be cautious about operating the radio without the appropriate license—it could lead to penalties.
In the EU, you’ll face stricter regulations regarding the use of powerful radios. Most off-the-shelf units won’t achieve 10 km without a repeater. Licensing might be necessary for higher power radios. For such distances, consider satellite messaging options like Inreach or newer iPhones for reliable communication in remote areas.